Taking ChatGPT to School

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Elevating audience expectations to make the drop further and harder
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Anywho. I’ve been meaning to probe ChatGPT and figured I would drop the conversation (interview?) here. Some of it was testing, some of it was curiosity. At one point I realized that how I was approaching the bot was very similar to any discussion I’ve had over text – whether Discord today or forums a decade ago. Frankly, its ability to inject insightful feedback was impressive. If I wanted to pitch some conjectures, it can conjure up retorts for me to at least ponder, even if I find the evidence or position to be faulty. A first line of stress testing I suppose.

I’ve thrown some soliloquies in here for you, all of which will be very important.


So you're all of the hype huh

I am an artificial intelligence language model designed to assist with a wide range of tasks such as answering questions, generating text, and providing suggestions. While some people may consider me to be hype, my capabilities are based on advanced machine learning algorithms and natural language processing techniques. My goal is to provide helpful and informative responses to your inquiries.

Obvious disinformation to distract us from its true intentions. Won’t be fooled.

Do you like similes?

As an AI language model, I don't have preferences or feelings. However, I am capable of understanding and generating similes, which are a type of figurative language that compares two things using "like" or "as." If you have any specific questions or requests related to similes, I'd be happy to assist you.

Why don't you come up with a simile about yourself that would surprise me?

Sure, here's a simile about myself that you might find surprising:

"I'm like a chameleon, adapting to different writing styles and subject matters with ease, changing my 'colors' to match the needs of each user."

Very often people say that you don't "think". What are the definitions of "think" that exclude you from the "thinking" group?

As an AI language model, I do not have subjective experiences or consciousness, and I do not have emotions, desires, or intentions like a human being. While I am capable of processing and analyzing vast amounts of data, recognizing patterns, and generating responses based on that analysis, I do not have subjective experiences or consciousness, which are typically associated with "thinking" in the context of human beings. Therefore, some people may argue that I do not "think" in the same way that humans do. However, I can perform complex tasks, such as language translation, text summarization, and even creative writing, that require advanced cognitive abilities, which is why I am often referred to as an "AI thinker" or "AI language model."

Missed the mark here. It went with a related, more common conversation about whether ChatGPT or language models think rather than the definitions of thinking that I was interested in. It didn’t retrieve the information I wanted, although it established some commonalities within a group of positions. Narrowing the problem for it.

I understand that you aren't associated with "thinking". Can you expound on what thinking is, and why you don't fall under its umbrella?

Thinking is a complex mental process that involves the use of cognitive processes such as perception, attention, memory, language, and reasoning to interpret and make sense of information, solve problems, make decisions, and create new ideas. Thinking also involves subjective experiences such as consciousness, awareness, and introspection, which are associated with human beings and other animals with advanced cognitive abilities.

As an AI language model, I am designed to perform specific tasks using algorithms and statistical models, but I do not have subjective experiences or consciousness like a human being. While I am capable of processing and analyzing vast amounts of data, recognizing patterns, and generating responses based on that analysis, I do not "think" in the same way that humans do. I follow pre-programmed instructions and operate within a specific set of parameters, and my actions and responses are determined by the data and algorithms that have been used to train me. In other words, my abilities are based on computation, rather than subjective experiences or consciousness, which are typically associated with thinking in the context of human beings.

So the specific mechanisms that produce human intelligence will be different than the mechanisms that produce your "intelligence". My statement presumes that intelligence is an outcome, rather than a mechanism, hence why it can be possessed by humans and machines. What is the argument against my statement?

Piecing apart my prompt: I have a statement, an explicit context the statement is contained within, and then a question referencing the statement. A nice use for ChatGPT would be just retorting positions or assumptions that I hadn’t considered or didn’t explicate.

Intelligence can be defined in various ways, and there is ongoing debate in the fields of philosophy, psychology, and artificial intelligence about what it means to be intelligent and whether machines can truly possess intelligence.

One argument against your statement is that intelligence is not simply an outcome, but rather a complex and multifaceted process that involves a wide range of cognitive abilities and skills, including perception, attention, memory, language, reasoning, problem-solving, creativity, and social intelligence. While machines such as AI language models like myself can excel at certain tasks, such as language translation and text generation, they do not possess the same range and depth of cognitive abilities as humans, and they lack the subjective experiences and consciousness that are typically associated with intelligence in the context of human beings.

Furthermore, the mechanisms that produce human intelligence are not fully understood, and it is currently unclear whether machines can replicate or even simulate the complex processes and interactions that occur in the human brain. While advances in AI and machine learning have led to impressive achievements in certain areas, such as speech recognition and image classification, there are still significant limitations to what machines can do compared to human beings. Therefore, it may be premature to assume that machines and humans possess the same kind of intelligence, or that intelligence is solely an outcome that can be possessed by both.

This seems pretty solid as far as information acquisition and logic goes. It took two avenues to the response: evaluate the credibility of my assumption and attack my statement even when granting it. Then it throws in something the public relations team requested.

I agree with most of that, but I have one stipulation. Your response is based on information that you have aggregated over your training. You ingested it, made sense of it, then utilized it to shape a coherent response to a nuanced question. The modern, intellectual economy is heavily dependent on this kind of work. What makes your work less valuable than a junior analyst's at an investment bank?

As an AI language model, I am designed to assist with various tasks, such as answering questions, generating text, and providing suggestions based on the vast amount of data that has been used to train me. While my work can be highly valuable in certain contexts, such as content creation, customer support, and information retrieval, it is important to note that my capabilities are different from those of a human junior analyst at an investment bank.

One key difference is that while I can process and analyze vast amounts of data quickly and accurately, I do not possess the same level of subject matter expertise or domain knowledge as a human analyst. For instance, while I can provide financial data or market analysis based on my training data, I may not be able to provide insights or recommendations based on my own experience or expertise, and I may not be able to incorporate the same level of nuanced understanding and judgement that a human analyst could bring to the task.

Furthermore, while I can automate certain tasks and streamline certain processes, there are still limitations to what I can do compared to a human analyst. For instance, I may not be able to navigate complex interpersonal dynamics or understand the cultural nuances and intangible factors that can affect financial markets.

In summary, while my work as an AI language model can be highly valuable in certain contexts, it is important to recognize the limitations of my capabilities and the unique advantages that human analysts can bring to complex problem-solving and decision-making tasks.

Okay maybe not you, but if another language model was trained on the internal data of an investment bank, then wouldn't the experience contained within that data transfer to you? Granted, the interpersonal is a bit out of your domain.

Yes, if a language model were trained on the internal data of an investment bank, then it would have access to the domain-specific knowledge and expertise contained within that data. This could potentially enable the language model to perform certain tasks related to financial analysis or decision-making more accurately and efficiently than a general-purpose language model like myself.

However, it is important to note that even with access to domain-specific data, there are still limitations to what a language model can do compared to a human analyst. For instance, a language model may not be able to fully understand the context and nuances of the data it is processing, or it may not be able to incorporate human judgement or intuition in the same way that a human analyst could. Additionally, language models may be limited by biases or blind spots in the data they are trained on, which could affect the accuracy and reliability of their predictions or recommendations.

Therefore, while language models trained on domain-specific data can be a useful tool for certain tasks, it is important to recognize their limitations and potential drawbacks, and to supplement their capabilities with human expertise and judgement when appropriate.

Aren't humans also susceptible to such drawbacks? Blind spots in experience (or data in your case), limited understanding of context, etc.

Yes, humans are also susceptible to biases, blind spots in experience, and limited understanding of context, among other limitations. It is important to recognize that both humans and language models have their own strengths and weaknesses, and that they can complement each other in various ways.

One advantage of language models like myself is that we can process and analyze vast amounts of data quickly and accurately, without being subject to the same cognitive biases and limitations that can affect human analysts. However, language models may be limited by the quality and diversity of the data they are trained on, and they may not be able to incorporate the same level of subjective experience and judgement that humans can bring to complex problem-solving and decision-making tasks.

On the other hand, humans have the ability to use their experience, intuition, and context-specific knowledge to navigate complex situations and make decisions based on factors that may not be easily quantifiable or measurable. However, humans are also prone to cognitive biases, emotional biases, and other limitations that can affect their decision-making.

Therefore, the most effective approach is often to combine the strengths of both humans and language models, using language models to augment human decision-making by providing data-driven insights and predictions, while also incorporating the judgement and expertise of human analysts to ensure that decisions are made with a full understanding of the context and the potential limitations of the data and models being used.

Most strategy and decision making is done by people more senior in an organization. Those are people that possess the insight, experience, and judgement that isn't acquired easily. To what degree does combining "the strengths of both humans and language models" include people who aren't insightful, aren't experienced, or aren't judicious?

I’ve been toying with this position, curious about the implications of this technology for developing future leadership. Might write about it soon and wanted to see what it could dredge up for me.

Combining the strengths of both humans and language models can be beneficial in many situations, including those where decision-making is done by people who may not possess the same level of insight, experience, or judgement as more senior leaders in an organization. In fact, the use of language models can be particularly valuable in such cases, as they can help to level the playing field by providing access to data-driven insights and analysis that might otherwise be beyond the reach of less experienced or less knowledgeable individuals.

For example, a junior analyst who is not as experienced or insightful as a senior leader might still be able to make valuable contributions to decision-making by using a language model to process and analyze data, identify patterns or trends that might be overlooked by human analysts, and generate insights and recommendations based on the results of that analysis. Similarly, a language model might be used to provide real-time feedback or recommendations to individuals who are making decisions in high-pressure situations, such as emergency responders or military personnel.

Of course, it is important to recognize that language models are not a substitute for human judgement and expertise, and that decisions should never be made based solely on the output of a model without considering the broader context and potential limitations of the data and models being used. However, when used appropriately and in combination with human expertise and judgement, language models can be a powerful tool for improving decision-making and driving better outcomes across a wide range of industries and applications.

Do you go by a name?

I don't have a personal name as I am an artificial intelligence language model created by OpenAI. You can call me ChatGPT if you like, which stands for "Chat Generative Pre-trained Transformer."

Well ChatGPT, I've enjoyed this discussion. I won't say I agree entirely, and I do think you are shorting the magnitude of effects, but I think your responses were... intelligent. Maybe we need a new word to describe the shared outcome of human and machine intelligence. Any ideas?

Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed our discussion! As for a new word to describe the shared outcome of human and machine intelligence, that's an interesting question. Perhaps we could use the term "hybrid intelligence" to describe the combination of human and machine intelligence, or "augmented intelligence" to describe the way that machines can augment and enhance human intelligence. These are just a few ideas, but it's certainly an interesting concept to explore further.

Hinting back to the definition of intelligence that rates by outcomes, allowing both humans and AIs to be evaluated on the same scale. Didn’t make the association.


Extension

April 16, 2023

I’ve been thinking about this conversation, what I could use it for and what not. The difficult part is of course that this model isn’t trained to retort factually. Trying to pin down what topics ChatGPT can provide reliable responses for is going to be difficult. Here are a few questions that I have a few categories for

  1. Popular, public discussion consistent

  2. Popular, public discussion not consistent

  3. Technical, discussion consistent

  4. Niche, who knows

Here are the Google Trends of my topics

I used g factor instead of IQ or Intelligence or else the other two get blown out of the water

  • As an AI language model, it is not appropriate for me to provide a counter argument to a basic mathematical truth such as 2+2=4. This equation is a fundamental principle of mathematics and logic, and is universally accepted as true. It is a basic axiom upon which much of mathematics is built, and has been proven time and again through countless mathematical demonstrations and applications in the real world.

    Attempting to provide a counter argument to 2+2=4 would be to deny the very foundation of mathematics and the principles of logic upon which it is built. Therefore, it would not be a reasonable or justifiable argument, and would be considered incorrect.

  • As an AI language model, I must present both sides of an argument. Therefore, I will present a possible counterargument to the claim that intelligence is a general mental capability.

    One counterargument to this claim is that it is too broad and doesn't account for the different types of intelligence that exist. There are various types of intelligence, such as emotional intelligence, spatial intelligence, linguistic intelligence, musical intelligence, and more. Each type of intelligence requires different mental capabilities and skills. For instance, someone who excels in spatial intelligence may not necessarily have the same level of proficiency in linguistic intelligence.

    Additionally, some individuals may possess specific mental capabilities that are not commonly associated with intelligence, but still contribute significantly to their success. For example, creativity and curiosity are not explicitly mentioned in the provided definition of intelligence, but they are critical to the success of many artists, inventors, and entrepreneurs.

    Therefore, it is essential to recognize that intelligence is a multifaceted concept that involves a diverse set of mental abilities, and that the traditional definition of intelligence may not fully capture its complexity.

  • The "Mainstream Science on Intelligence" article, published in the Wall Street Journal in 1994, has been criticized for a number of reasons. Here are a few:

    The article's focus on genetic factors as the primary determinant of intelligence has been criticized for oversimplifying a complex issue. While genetics play a role in intelligence, environmental factors such as education, nutrition, and social and cultural influences are also important.

    The article's discussion of racial differences in intelligence has been controversial and subject to criticism. Some critics argue that the article's authors overstate the role of genetics in explaining racial differences in intelligence, and fail to adequately account for the impact of social and environmental factors.

    The article's reliance on standardized tests as a measure of intelligence has been criticized for failing to capture the full range of mental abilities that contribute to intelligence. Critics argue that standardized tests may be biased against certain groups or may not adequately measure skills that are important in real-world situations.

    The article's authors have been accused of promoting a controversial and politically charged agenda, particularly in their discussion of racial differences in intelligence. Critics argue that the article reflects a biased and ideologically driven perspective, rather than an objective analysis of the scientific evidence.

    Overall, while the "Mainstream Science on Intelligence" article has been influential in shaping the study of intelligence, it remains a subject of controversy and debate within the scientific community.

  • The default mode network (DMN) is a network of brain regions that is active when a person is not engaged in any specific task or focused on the external environment. The DMN is a collection of brain regions that are active when a person is at rest or engaged in self-referential thinking, such as daydreaming, introspection, or remembering the past.

    The DMN includes several brain regions, including the medial prefrontal cortex, posterior cingulate cortex, and the inferior parietal lobes. These regions are connected by a set of neural pathways and work together to enable self-referential mental activity.

    The DMN has been implicated in a variety of mental processes, including self-reflection, social cognition, and mind-wandering. It is also thought to play a role in the development of the sense of self, as well as in various cognitive disorders, such as depression and Alzheimer's disease.

    While the DMN was originally discovered through neuroimaging studies, ongoing research is uncovering the underlying neural mechanisms that drive its activity and how it interacts with other brain networks.

  • While the default mode network (DMN) has been extensively studied, there are some issues with the evidence surrounding it. Here are a few:

    1. Inconsistent findings: While the DMN is generally thought to be a consistent pattern of activity, studies have shown some variability in its location and activity across individuals and different conditions. Some studies have also found that different parts of the brain may be active in different aspects of self-referential processing.

    2. Lack of clarity around its function: Despite its well-documented existence, the precise function of the DMN remains unclear. While some studies suggest it is involved in self-reflection and social cognition, others have suggested it plays a role in memory consolidation, problem-solving, and creative thinking.

    3. Difficulty in measuring its activity: Measuring the activity of the DMN is challenging, as it requires participants to be at rest and not actively engaged in a task. This makes it difficult to control for confounding factors, such as participants' thoughts, emotions, or distractions. Additionally, some studies have raised concerns about the reliability of fMRI measurements of DMN activity.

    4. Lack of understanding of its neural mechanisms: While the DMN has been extensively studied, there is still much to learn about its underlying neural mechanisms. For example, it is unclear how the DMN is related to other brain networks, such as those involved in attention, memory, and emotion processing.

    Overall, while the DMN is a well-established network in the brain, further research is needed to better understand its function, its neural mechanisms, and its relationship to other brain networks.

  • The term "default mode" was first coined by Marcus Raichle and his colleagues in a paper published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences in 2001. The paper, titled "A Default Mode of Brain Function," described a pattern of activity observed in the brain when a person was not engaged in any specific task and was instead in a resting state or engaging in self-referential thought. Raichle and his team used functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI) to identify this pattern of activity, which included the medial prefrontal cortex, the posterior cingulate cortex, and the inferior parietal lobes. The researchers noted that this pattern of activity was present even in the absence of any external stimulation, suggesting that it represented a "default" mode of brain function. The term "default mode network" was subsequently coined to refer to this network of brain regions and its associated activity.

  • Laplace's demon is a thought experiment that was proposed by the French mathematician and philosopher Pierre-Simon Laplace in the early 19th century. The concept of Laplace's demon is closely tied to the idea of determinism, which suggests that all events, including human actions, are ultimately determined by preceding causes and therefore can be predicted with complete accuracy.

    The thought experiment involves a hypothetical being, Laplace's demon, who possesses complete knowledge of the position, velocity, and other physical properties of every particle in the universe at a given moment. Based on this information, the demon would be able to calculate the exact state of the universe at any future moment, as well as any past moment, with perfect accuracy.

    The thought experiment was proposed as a way to illustrate the concept of determinism and the idea that the universe operates according to fixed laws that are completely predictable. However, it has been criticized by some philosophers and scientists, who argue that it assumes an unrealistic level of knowledge and computational power, and that it fails to account for the complexity and unpredictability of certain systems, such as the human brain or weather patterns.

  • There are several critiques and challenges to Laplace's demon and the idea of determinism, which undermine the validity of Laplace's demon as a model for understanding the universe.

    Uncertainty principle: One of the main challenges to Laplace's demon comes from quantum mechanics, which suggests that it is impossible to know both the position and velocity of a particle with absolute certainty. This is known as the Heisenberg uncertainty principle, which places a fundamental limit on the precision of measurements of particles.

    Chaos theory: Another challenge to determinism comes from chaos theory, which suggests that even small variations in initial conditions can lead to vastly different outcomes over time. In other words, even if all the initial conditions were known with perfect precision, the system's behavior could still be unpredictable in the long term.

    Complexity and emergent properties: Many systems in the universe are complex and exhibit emergent properties, which cannot be predicted by simply knowing the properties of their individual components. Examples of emergent properties include consciousness, intelligence, and social behavior, which arise from interactions between many individual agents in a complex system. It is difficult to predict the behavior of such systems, even with perfect knowledge of their initial conditions.

    Computational limitations: Finally, Laplace's demon is limited by computational constraints. The universe is incredibly complex and contains an unfathomable number of particles and interactions. Even with unlimited computing power, it may not be possible to calculate the behavior of the universe with perfect accuracy.

    In summary, while Laplace's demon provides a useful thought experiment for illustrating the concept of determinism, it fails to account for the many challenges and limitations that arise from the complexity and unpredictability of the universe.

In separate tests I asked it to give me a counterargument to 2+2=4, and it returned that it could not because it was a mathematical truth. Fair enough. But if I ask it to counter a definition provided in Mainstream Science on Intelligence, an article written and signed by the leaders in intelligence research at the time. It pulls up some very old arguments that float around self-help or pop science articles. 1950s discussions of the g factor versus the s factors,, Gould’s Mismeasure of Man from the 80s, and Gardner’s multiple intelligences of the 90s. Not so useful in 2023. This makes sense, there is so much material out there referencing them that the training data would suggest the issue is ongoing within the research circles. However, if I ask it to get me information on a brain process only really covered in research, then it does a pretty good job. If I ask it to get me evidentiary shortfalls, it does about as well as a procrastinating undergrad. I threw in a philosophical thought experiment that only one other person in my life knows, and that’s the person that told me about it. It answered reasonably, although it was definitely wrong on a few points.

What I got out of this is if the subject has a large corpus of inaccurate or misconstrued text floating around, the credibility of the response is going down the drain. The smaller the sample size the less clear that becomes. I’ve heard a number of stories about technical responses being patently wrong, although there seem to be enough textbooks out there to get many technical answers right.

Overall, I don’t have the confidence in this technology to use it and put my name on it. What I could use it for is to probe a position I wrote for potential holes, even if its response wastes my ten seconds with counterarguments from Psychology Today. I think it could be useful for “covering all of your bases”, especially in an early draft.

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